After 25 years abroad, this US-based NRI moved to Madurai one academic year at a time, kept the US house flexible for six months, and found that family, healthcare access, and community mattered more than convenience.
She did not leave the US because life had collapsed. She left after a slower realization: a child, a growing India-side business, one funeral flight that hit differently, and the sense that convenience in America could not fully replace family, community, and easier access to care.
This article reflects the guest's experience. Her comments on tax status, healthcare access, and cross-border decisions are not tax, legal, or medical advice. Use a qualified cross-border advisor for your own US-India tax and planning decisions.
What this story answers: What makes a long-settled NRI in the US finally move back to India after 25 years? In this case, not one single failure. It was a pile-up of truths: a child growing up without extended family, business gravity shifting to India, specialist wait times in the US, and the realization that living far from home feels very different once emergencies become real.
Her story did not begin in the US. It began with study in the UK. She says she earned an economics degree from the University of Cambridge, and that was the first time she had lived outside India. After that, she moved to the US for marriage and stayed there for most of her adult life.
That duration matters because this is not a short-term expat story. She says she spent about 25 years outside India and that the US shaped who she became. In her words, the country influenced her formative experiences and her way of thinking, which she now sees as an advantage after returning to India.
Her career also cuts against the stereotype that every Indian in America is either an engineer or a doctor. She says she worked in stock markets and finance, then spent time in food writing and importing spices, and has been in textiles for roughly the last 10 years. Today, she runs a home-textiles business with factories in India and the US as the biggest market.
This page is not only for tech professionals. It is also for business owners, career switchers, and long-settled NRIs whose life abroad became more layered than the usual immigration narrative.
She says she did not seriously think about moving back to India until about four or five years earlier. The first seed came after she had her child. She started thinking about how different his upbringing was from her own and felt it would be good for him to experience multigenerational family love.
That idea stayed in the background for some time. The first major practical trigger was business. Her India-side textile work accelerated enough that she was coming to India every month for a period. She repeatedly took the nonstop San Francisco-to-Bangalore flight, often with a small child, and it became exhausting.
Her conclusion was that if the business center of gravity was in India, it made more sense to live in India and travel to the US rather than the other way around. But even then, she still had not fully committed to moving.
The real emotional break came after her father passed away two years earlier. On the flight back to India for the funeral, she says she suddenly felt the full weight of living far away from home. She had taken that flight many times before, but this time the distance landed differently because it was tied to loss and emergency rather than a planned visit.
That same section of the transcript also reveals a second pressure point: healthcare. She says that in the town where she lived in the US after COVID, it was difficult to find specialists, and in one case she faced a four- or five-month wait. Insurance felt like a gatekeeper. Instead of waiting, she flew to India, got the needed care, and flew back.
Her first move was mental, not logistical. She told herself she would do the return one academic school year at a time. That framing mattered because it removed the pressure to declare the move permanent before she had actually lived it. By the time of the interview, she says she was already in her second year and was glad she had done it.
Location was easier to solve than administration. Her family and business were both in Tamil Nadu, so she always knew that if she moved, it would be there. During COVID, she had already built a house in India as a base for visits, so once she decided to return she could simply move into it.
On the US side, the most important admin decision was the house. For the first six months in India, she did not decide what to do with it because she wanted the option to go back if needed. Only after six months, when the move felt right, did she rent the house in the US.
She also says she did not bring much material stuff to India. The important items went into a pod. The tenant was happy to rent the US house with furniture, and the car sold in one day because the post-COVID secondhand car market was strong.
The one place where she becomes explicitly cautionary is tax planning. She says the NRI-to-India-resident transition changes tax consequences over time, so people need a strong tax person in the US and another in India, ideally someone who understands cross-border NRI situations. If that is your immediate bottleneck, use our financial checklist for NRIs moving back to India and the broader return-to-India planner guide before acting in sequence.
She lives in Madurai, which she describes as a second-tier city in Tamil Nadu. The trade-off starts with connectivity. Because she is not in Chennai or Bangalore, every international trip usually requires an extra connection. She says that adds some complexity, but for her it is a small price to pay for being closer to family and business.
She also found an unexpected productivity advantage in a smaller city. With fewer distractions around her, she says she gets more work done and feels more focused. That is a useful counterpoint to the standard assumption that only a metro can support a serious return.
What does she miss from the US? Mainly the weather and the ease of getting things done quickly. She likes cooler weather and says procurement is generally easier in America. But the trade-off she accepts is that India gives her community, and the slower procurement of things like specialty ingredients no longer feels decisive.
| Area | What she values in India | What she still misses from the US |
|---|---|---|
| Community | Childhood friends, business groups, and more organic socializing | Nothing comparable was highlighted as a strength |
| Healthcare | Easier access to doctors, hospitals, and specialists | High-quality doctors still exist, but access could involve long waits |
| Daily life | Household services, delivery apps, and practical support | Faster procurement and smoother convenience systems |
| Environment | Closer to family and business in Tamil Nadu | Cooler weather |
The healthcare section of the transcript is one of the strongest parts of the story. She says that in the US, specialist access in her town became difficult after COVID and insurance often controlled what care was possible. In India, by contrast, she sees easier access to excellent medical care as a major advantage. If healthcare is one of your own move triggers, pair this story with our health insurance guide for NRI and OCI families.
Community matters just as much. She says it was easy to plug back into childhood friendships and business organizations in Madurai, and that she finds the US slightly isolating by comparison. She also prefers how socializing happens in India without always needing the structure of advance playdates.
She is clear that the move was more of an adjustment for her son than for her. For her, India is home. For him, India had been something he visited and spoke the language of, but not the place where his everyday life had been built.
His early observations are exactly the kind of concrete details parents remember. He found India loud. He was surprised that the roads were shared with goats and cows. He asked why all Indians had black hair. His first Christmas in Madurai shocked him because there was no snow. These are not dramatic problems, but they show how even culturally connected children still experience India as a new environment when they arrive from the US.
She says he is in IB, and the biggest adjustment in school was scale. He had been in a small private school on the US west coast, whereas even a smaller Indian school felt larger than what he was used to. It took him a few months to settle, but he made friends quickly.
Her observation about the internet is worth noting. She says children in India and the US now consume the same YouTube creators and media, which creates more common ground than earlier generations had. If your own return depends heavily on schooling decisions, use our best schools in India for NRI kids guide and the deeper IB vs IGCSE vs CBSE comparison.
On pure business setup, she thinks the US is easier. Her example is straightforward: in the US she could go online and register an LLC quickly. India, in her view, still has more red tape, even though it has become much simpler over the last 10 to 15 years.
Where she becomes more specific is corporate culture. Because she works in textiles, which she describes as a more traditional industry, she still sees hierarchy in a way that feels dated to her. She gives a small but telling example: if the boss is still in the office, people do not always feel free to leave even if the day's work is done.
Her point is not that India is broken. It is narrower. She thinks India has improved administratively, but that sectors like textiles can still learn from the West on workplace culture. At the same time, she finds that being in a smaller city keeps her focused and productive, which suggests that business performance and lifestyle quality do not have to be in conflict.
Her clearest advice is to be explicit about intent. Why are you moving back to India? Is it family, health, child-rearing, business proximity, community, cost, or something else? She says you need that clarity for the move to work because otherwise you will evaluate everything through confusion.
Her second lesson is psychological. People who left India decades ago often carry a frozen picture of the India they left behind. She says that old cultural memory can distort present-day decisions, because many NRIs are still comparing the US to the India of the 1990s rather than to India as it is now.
Do not say only "we want to come back." Say whether the driver is family, children, health, business, cost, or belonging.
Her one-school-year-at-a-time model and six-month delay on the US house are both examples of lowering risk without forcing a premature permanent commitment.
She repeatedly warns that cross-border tax status changes over time and should be handled with strong US and India-side advice.
Her experience is that some parts of India are more technologically convenient than many NRIs assume.
Her biggest pleasant surprises also support the practical side of return. She says household support in India can run almost on autopilot, which frees time for more strategic work. She appreciates how warmly Indian society treats children, the stronger sense of community, and the everyday usefulness of delivery apps and domestic help.
In this story, the move did not begin with one dramatic collapse. The guest says the first seed came after she had her child and started thinking about what it would mean for him to grow up without the multigenerational family environment she had known in India. The second factor was business. Her home-textiles work in India grew to the point where she was flying from San Francisco to Bangalore repeatedly, often with a small child, and the arrangement started feeling backward.
The final trigger was emotional and practical at the same time. When her father passed away two years earlier, she took the same US-to-India flight she had taken many times before and realized how far away from home she really lived. For her, family distance, business proximity, healthcare access, and community eventually outweighed the convenience of American systems.
Her method was simple and psychologically useful: she did not frame the move as a forever decision. She told herself she would do it one academic school year at a time. That reduced the pressure and made the transition easier to attempt honestly. By the time of this conversation, she says she was already in the second year and was glad she had moved.
She also preserved flexibility on the US side. For the first six months in India, she did not make a final decision on the house in the US because she wanted the option to go back if needed. Only after six months, when the move felt right, did she decide to rent the house out. The point is not that everyone should copy her exact timeline. The point is that a phased return can lower decision stress and reduce the fear of irreversible mistakes.
This guest treated the house as a flexibility tool first and a rental asset second. She deliberately kept the decision open for six months after moving to India because she did not yet know whether the return would work for her family. Once she felt settled, she rented the house in the US. That suggests a useful rule: do not rush into selling, renting, or emptying a property before you understand whether the move is stable enough to support that choice.
Her broader household move was also minimalist. She did not bring most of her belongings to India. She kept only critical items in a pod, left a lot of the furniture in the house because the tenant was happy to take it furnished, and sold the car quickly in the strong post-COVID secondhand market. The operational question is not only real-estate strategy. It is how the house decision interacts with flexibility, furnishing, storage, and timing.
Her son had been born and raised in the US, so India was familiar only through visits and language, not daily life. She says the move was more of an adjustment for him than for her. He noticed concrete differences immediately: the noise, the roads shared with goats and cows, the fact that everyone around him seemed to have black hair, and the shock of having no snowy Christmas in Madurai. The biggest school-level change was scale. He moved from a small private school on the US west coast into a much larger Indian setting.
At the same time, the transition was not framed as a failure. She says he is friendly, made friends quickly, and that internet culture created common ground between children in the US and India. He is in IB, and although it took a few months to settle, he adapted. Her story suggests that adjustment can be real without being catastrophic, especially when the child has language familiarity and social ease.
Her answer centers on two things: community and access. She says the US is designed for convenience, but not necessarily for community, whereas in Madurai she could plug back into childhood friendships, business groups, and a more organic social life. She contrasts Indian socialization with the American habit of arranging playdates in advance, saying she prefers the easier, less structured way people gather in India. She also valued the way society receives children and the sense that the metaphorical door is always open.
The second advantage was healthcare access. She describes a situation in the US where a needed specialist had a four- or five-month wait and insurance acted as a gatekeeper. Instead of waiting, she flew to India, got the required care, and returned. After moving back, she says the ease of reaching hospitals, doctors, and specialists in India felt like a major advantage, even though she still misses cool weather and the ease of procuring things in the US.
If your decision depends on taxes, what to do with a US house, school timing, healthcare, and how to test the move without overcommitting too early, put the sequence on paper before emotion decides the timing for you.
This is most useful if your family is weighing community, healthcare access, child transition, and cross-border admin at the same time.
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0:00 When my father passed away 2 years ago and I same flight I had taken the same flight from the US back to India and on that flight I'm thinking I'm going for the funeral and on that flight I'm thinking >> [music] >> my God I live so far away from home. You know, I think >> it was in that moment on that flight and I've taken that flight hundreds of times, but it was that in that moment that I realized, you know, that [music] I live really far away from home. I noticed [snorts] at least in the town that I lived post COVID it was very difficult to find specialists. and I unfortunately was in a situation where I needed a specialist and the wait was some four or five months or something. So yeah, it it was scary. And then there's the whole insurance game as well, right?
0:55 Often in the US insurance is the gatekeeper of what kind of medical care you receive. You can't just go and get what you think you need. So in this particular situation I was not willing to wait the four months to see the specialist. So I actually got on a plane, flew to India, got what I needed to get done, saw the specialist and then flew back. What I realize is the US is designed for these kind of like conveniences, but it may be not necessarily designed for community. After 25 years abroad, she decided to move back to India.
1:52 >> So it started with my master's degree. So I went to the UK to study. Okay. I have an economics degree from the University of Cambridge in UK. So, that was the first time that I had lived abroad. Before then, I had lived in India. And yeah, so I went to study. And once I finished, then I moved to the US and that was actually for marriage. 99 for the UK. Yeah. And then when I finished my studies and then I went to the US. So, yeah, so I've been I was outside of India like most my adult life, actually. So, about 25 or so years. [snorts] I think I am the person that I am today because of the US because I lived there so long and all my formative experiences were there. It's really shaped my
2:53 Thinking and I think now that I'm back in India, that's that's thinking has been a big advantage for me. It was really good. So, most people they just assume, right? When you're an Indian in the US, they just say, "Oh, so you're what kind of engineer are you?" And then I say, "I'm not an engineer." They'll say, "Oh, you're a doctor then?" So, you know, I don't fit into any of that. So, yeah, I studied economics. I worked in stock market and finance in that field. It was the opportunities were great. I I I really don't think that the opportunities are in engineering only. There's There's a lot. There's There's a lot that you can do in the finance and the stock market field. I was in the food business and you know, food writing, importing spices for a while.
3:51 Again, tremendous opportunity. So, I switched careers quite a bit. >> [snorts] >> And the last 10 years or so, I'm in textiles. Yeah. So, we have a I have a home textiles business and we make textiles for the home. My factory's here in India and the US is my biggest market. We make sheets and blankets, quilts, like all the textiles for the home. It's a sustainable operation. again, very few Indians in the US in this field, but there's there's a lot of opportunity.
4:30 So, it sounds like I think you built businesses, you had a good career, and life was good. I mean, it that definitely gave you the environment where you thrive. so, why the move to India and, you know, after living there for so long? I didn't actually think about moving to India until about maybe four or five years ago and there was a little bit of a seed in my head once I had my child. And he was growing up and I was thinking, you know, this is very different from how I grew up. It would be nice for him to experience that multi-generational love in a family, you know. so, there's a little bit of a seed that happened then, but then I was hesitating and I wasn't sure if it's the right thing to do. So, I would just keep putting it off. And then [snorts] the catalyst for me, there were two things.
5:25 So, one was my business in India really took off. So, there was a time when I was coming to India every month. And I would take the there was that non-stop flight from San Francisco to Bangalore that I would take. They they knew me on that on that flight. I was on it so much. And it was [snorts] with a small child, it's it's exhausting. It was really tiring. I kept thinking, I think I'm doing this upside down. I think I should be living in India, taking care of business, and then going to the US. That was one thing, but I think the the the real sort of the the last straw for me was when my father passed away 2 years ago, and [music] I same flight I had taken the same flight from the US >> back to India. And on that flight, I'm thinking I'm going for the funeral, and on that flight, I'm thinking, my [music] god, I live so far away from home.
6:26 It was in that moment on that flight, and I've taken that flight [music] hundreds of times, but it was that in that moment that I realized, you know, that I live really far away from home. Reaching home during an emergency or something is >> is so difficult. And in that moment, I started to think, if I just keep thinking I should move, I should move, it won't happen. >> Let me just do it. And I told myself, we'll do it one academic school year at a time. >> And if it doesn't work out, then we'll just go back. So, I didn't put the pressure on myself that it's a [music] big permanent move. None of that. I just told myself, we'll do it 1 year at a time. It's my second year now, and I'm really glad. I think it's been a good move. I'm I'm glad that I made the move.
7:15 That was quite easy, actually, because my family and my business are all in Tamil Nadu. Okay. This is where I'm from. So, in my mind, it was clear if I ever move, it would be here, right? So, that was an easy choice. And luckily for me, during COVID, I had built a house. Okay. Thinking that, you know, I'll I'll build a house, so that way when I come to visit India then I have, you know, my own space. Yeah. So, the the house was there. So, then I I just moved into it. You got it. So, in terms of where to move, I think that was an easier decision. I think the more like the administrative things that needed to happen were back on the US side. So, for the first 6 months I didn't make a decision on my house in the US. Yeah. Because I wasn't sure, right? Is this going to work out or not?
8:14 I just wanted to keep options open so that I had flexibility in case we were deciding to go back. Yeah. So, 6 months after I moved to India, I decided, "Okay, this feels right. So, now I'm going to rent my house in the US." Yeah. So, then I rented my house in the US. So, administratively, it was Mhm. that was the big one. You got it. I'm in Madurai in Tamil Nadu. So, it's a second-tier city, right? So, it's not as big as a Chennai, certainly not as big as a Bangalore. So, the things that were a bit of an adjustment for me were the flight connectivities. So, every time I had to fly somewhere, I always had one extra connection because I was going from a second-tier city. So, I had to do Madurai-Bangalore and then the US or Madurai-Chennai and then like wherever I'm going. so, that added a little bit of
9:14 Complexity, but I think it's a very small price to pay for You got it. what I get here, you know, because I'm closer to family, I'm closer to my business as well. one thing I find being in a smaller town, there's fewer distractions so I actually get more work done. So, it's I'm actually more productive, you know, I'm more focused. So, I like it. I think the big one and I'm no, you know, expert in this, but I think tax planning becomes very important. Because if you're going from NRI to living in India, then you're going to be RNOR, you're going you're going to be ROR, and then you'll be a resident Indian. So, your tax repercussions is a big one.
10:12 And your tax repercussions also change as your status changes. So, it's very important to have a very strong tax person in the US and then also in India. I recommend finding a cross-border expert, like an in pat expat expert that understands the NRI situation really well. I didn't bring anything. I I didn't see the point. To me, it was just material stuff, you know? I have a little, you know, one of those pod things. So, I have my very important, critical things packed and it's stored in the pod.
11:02 A lot of the furniture, I was very lucky. My tenant was thrilled to rent the house with my furniture, so I didn't like, you know, move move a lot of things. The only like big ticket item that I had to get rid of was my car, and that's so easy. Post-COVID second-hand car market in the US is crazy. I sold it in one day. that was it.
11:31 So, now let's talk about the life in India. I know I think at the time of the move your plan was to test the waters, take it one year at a time, and see how it goes. so how has the life been? I mean it's been about 2 years this second year as you said. Like how how is it? Was there any initial adjustments? Was there anything that anytime you felt like you missed something from US? I think I miss the weather. It's like right now, right? It's it's very hot in Madurai. So you know, I wish that I I I miss the the cooler weather. I like cool weather, so I miss that. I'm I miss the ease of getting things done.
12:19 Just anything, getting things done, procuring something, it's much easier in the US. But at the same time, what I realized is the US is designed for these kind of like conveniences, but it maybe not necessarily designed for community. So I think the trade-off for me is I'm getting community, and then if if something is broken or if I have to procure something, you know, pizza flour or something like that, it takes me a few extra days, but it's okay. Yeah. And the but the biggest difference that I I see is in the medical care, and I know that people mention this in your pods quite a bit.
13:12 I'm really enjoying the ease of access to medical excellent medical care in India. The doctors and hospitals in the US are also very good, but there's often a wait. And I noticed at least in the town that I lived post COVID, four or five months or something. So, Often in the US insurance is keeper of what kind of medical care you receive.
14:00 You can't just go and So, in this particular situation, months to see the specialist. So, I specialist, and then flew back. And I felt less riskier than waiting, right? When I especially when it comes to medical stuff. that I find here is a big advantage. I knew a lot of people in this town, you know, since I'm from here and so there's childhood friends and I felt like there was already a built-in community. And then also what happened for me was some of the business groups and organizations roped me in.
14:53 So, that also became my community. So, I didn't have an issue. It was, you know, it was easy for me to come back and just plug into that group of childhood friends or there's a business group, like-minded people. so, that was it was not an issue. In fact, in comparison, the US is is is slightly isolating. Okay. And I think the ease in which you socialize here is is greater. You know, like like playdates, right? I was very surprised when I first moved to the US and then this concept of playdates and I think like what? You have to make an appointment to play? You know, so I feel like socialization here is it's it's more organic. I like that.
15:46 My child, it was a little bit of a adjustment and it was really interesting to see the move through a child's eyes because he was born and brought up in the US. That's all he knew. We visited India and he speaks the language, but still living here was very different. And you know, he would he would comment on on things like, "Oh, Amma, India is so loud." You know, or he'll say, "Don't drive I drive here. It's it's it's important to me that I keep driving in India as well, so I drive here and I have a license and everything and he'll say, "Are you sure you can manage the roads here?" You know, because he's noticing that you have to share the roads with the the goats and the the the cows and it's it's it's very different. It was very interesting and then he said, "Amma, how come all Indians have black hair?" Because he was in a school where it was this multicultural people looked, you know, there was all kinds of looks and
16:46 Then here it's more everybody looks the same. It was it was very interesting. And then he was shocked the first Christmas that we were here. He said, "What do you mean there's no snow in Madurai?" So [laughter] I said, "No, we won't have a white Christmas. It doesn't snow in in Madurai." So it was an it was an adjustment I think more for him than me. For me this is it's home, you know, it's just coming back home. So he's in IB. For him the I think the biggest change was the scale of things. He was in a little private school on the US West Coast and then he your Indian even the smaller Indian schools are quite big, right? Com- compared to the US scale. So, he was quite surprised about the scale of things. So, I think it took him a few months to settle into that. But, he's a friendly guy. He makes friends very easily. And it was very interesting. Unlike when I was growing up, now with the internet and everything,
17:48 The 10-year-old in the US and the 10-year-old in India consume the same YouTube. So, when they get together and they talk, they're actually there's a lot of common ground. You know, they're actually discussing the same things and the same movies and Mr. Beast and all the all the creators. And so, there's a lot of common ground. And it was fascinating to see how the internet and technology bridges this cultural difference. And often there, you know, there there isn't much. And with him, I also found a lot of the kids thought that, you know, he was he was quite cool and, you know, he's he's come from the US and some of the kids they say, "Hey, I want to speak like you." So, it was it was he made friends quickly. So, that helped.
18:44 It's easier in the US for sure, right? When it comes to administratively setting up a business. I mean, I can go online right now and register an LLC, for example. So, it when it comes to that sort of, you know, red tape and and and hoops to jump through, US is easier. But, I think the in India, it's become more simplified and it's become easier over the last 15, you know, 10 10 15 years or so in even in terms of, you know, regulation hurdles to incorporate something, it's absolutely, it's gotten better. But corporate culture-wise, I find that in India there's still that hierarchy and you know, there's the the way they view the boss, right? Some Sometimes I see if the boss is in the office, then the people don't go
19:45 Home and I tell them, you know, it's okay. If you've done your work, just go go at 5:00. It's fine. So, that sort of that that hierarchy, I find that they're still holding on to. Also, I'm in an industry that's more traditional and in textiles, I'm sure tech is different. but the the the culture in the textile industry, corporate culture, I think we can learn a lot from the West.
20:13 Really think about the intent. What is your intention behind moving back to India? What is it that you want out of the move? I think you [snorts] have to be very clear about that for you to be you know, successful within the move. And keep in mind, you know, those of us who moved like decades ago, there is this this cultural memory of India that is from when you moved. You know, if you moved in the '90s, then often the immigrants in the US or anywhere think that India's still like that. And I find that that colors their move.
21:02 Often they [snorts] think like they don't want to move because to them India is the India of the '90s. The the roads, or the infrastructure, or whatever, is of the '90s, but then I I think we have to calibrate, and really look at India for what it is today, and what it offers today, and it's it's technologically very advanced in in certain fields. It's more advanced than the US. There's more conveniences. So, I I think that cultural memory has to be adjusted, so that they have realistic expectations of the the real India that they're moving into.
21:48 See, as a parent, you know, and someone who owns a business, like overall, I'm a you know, quite a busy person. one of the things I was pleasantly surprised about. I didn't actually think about it, but in India, often your household services are on autopilot. The cooking, cleaning, laundry, driving, if you want to, you can easily put that on autopilot. You can hire people to do that for you. And especially where I'm at, it's easy.
22:34 And it's something that I sort of not really thought about. And then when I moved here, I realized, "Wow, this frees up a lot of my time to do more intellectual, strategic work." You know, instead of the the more basic administrative things, which takes up a lot of time. If in the US, then, you know, often you have to do all of that yourself. And it's something I had just taken for granted in the US and I kind of forgotten that you can actually get, you know, help in that department. So, I think that was that was a big one.
23:20 I think the way society views children, you know, in in India is very endearing. Right? They will accept your child. You can take your child to most places. They society just adores and often reveres children. So, I think it's a very healthy place, you know, for for children to grow up. The other thing I really appreciated is the sense of community. Right? Like it's that that metaphorical door is always open. You know, you can So, so socializing wise, like I said, like I found the US a little more isolating or socializing was more structured. Here is more organic.
24:14 That I like. And also like all the the delivery apps and all these conveniences, you know, I think it's is much better than where where I used to live. So, that was also a nice surprise. Got it. Understood. All right. So, yeah, thank you very much for taking the time and wish you all the best with your business and I know the future plans. So, really appreciate you taking the time and sharing your story with us today. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Great.
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