Watch: Moved Back to India Twice: Why the First Return Failed and the Second Worked

3:26 Of a cultural shock but it was a great experience overall. >> Got it. Was it in the Bay Area that you lived? >> Yeah. Yeah, I lived in the Bay Area. >> Cool. So, for how long you lived there

3:36 Before the thought of India occurred to you and why? >> So, I got married and my husband was in his green card process already. So, we got our green card, we got our citizenship in 2007. my daughter was born in 2007 as well. and when my daughter was 6 months old we visited India for my sister's wedding. my sister lived in India like I only have one sister she lives in India. My sister-in-law like again they are just two siblings. So she lives in India too. I came here for my sister's wedding. and I just felt that like you know I needed to be back spend more time with the family have my daughter spend more time with the grandparents and kind of like you know grow in

4:37 That culture because of course in US also everybody has families like you know their they visit their families grandparents we had nobody so I felt like you know this was the time to spend more time with the family and we had recently gotten our citizenship so we were feeling the freedom and we were still pretty young so it was like you know ad spot decision was like do you think we should move it's like yeah let's move so that was like in December and we had our house in Bay Area we sold that talked to the companies that we were in I took a transition back into the same company in India got a pretty good role like you know moving back to India because of course like you know everybody is looking for people who want to move back and bring that culture back and establish teams so we moved in May of

5:37 2008 it was that quick sold everything packed everything in a container and we were back >> got it so it was not something that you have in the back of the mind but just like that trip to India where you realized I think you know to bring your daughter with the family and all that stuff. It's very >> interesting. >> I mean I think we always both of us even like you know when before we got married when we met and we we used to talk about it. It was in the back of our mind that we want to settle back in India eventually. Both of us have that mindset but it wasn't planned like that it has to happen like you know by a certain time in that age you don't plan much right like know life goes on as it goes on so we had lot of good friends like I had my college friends in Bay Area my husband had a huge college circle friends we had great times were awesome we would drive to the the Montre Bay and the highway one

6:39 >> like you know go strawberry picking. life was just going on like you know no plans as such but it just happened. >> Got it. Cool. so just to confirm like

6:51 In terms of the career you mentioned you took a internal transfers. Were you in IT or in the core engineer? >> Yeah I've always been in IT. So I s started my career as a software engineer. so yeah I was on both of us were were always in it. Yeah. >> Got it. And then were you able to move to Mumbai or did you relocate to another city in India at that time? >> No, so we decided to move to Pune just because like you know I felt I needed to go to a like much smaller town which was not such a hard life like you know Bay Area wasn't as crazy at that time but it was still a very busy schedule. We like when we bought our house we used to live an hour away from the workplace so it was a long drive. my daughter was young and I wanted to make sure I go to like you know a smaller city where I'm not like you know driving around or stuck in traffic all the time. Pune weather has been great honestly like we didn't have anybody in Pune like none of our families live in Pune so we've always been kind of crazy in some [laughter] ways. So like you

7:54 Know we thought of all the major cities and we're like no we don't want to go to any major cities like go to a tier 2 which still has like you know presence of for the company that we were in. so we get a job but we get a like you know good weather. in fact I think that was our first trip to Pune ever. >> Oh really? >> Never been to Pune before. We just heard about it. >> Got it. so >> was your spouse also able to get a job in Pune? >> No. So he decided to quit and start start something on his own. So he experimented with different things. That was another reason we felt that like you know if we are in India flexibility to experiment. So yeah that's got it going.

8:50 >> So how was the life in India? I think 2008. It's like almost 17 years ago. And yeah, >> it was actually pretty good. Like you know, Pune wasn't as busy city as it is now. so it was much quieter. The weather was awesome. my parents like, you know, of course they were younger at that time too and they decided to move closer to us. like you know because we moved so my daughter really grew up with the with the grandparents that we wished for honestly like you know I don't even remember how they grew up like you know I barely did anything probably like you know the grandparents took care of like you know their daily because they love doing it right like not that needed to but like you know they would play they'll take care of everything they would dress her up And then my son was born in Pune in 2011.

9:52 >> Okay. >> So and that was a great experience like you know because my first one was born in Bay Area and the second one was in Pune. a very fivestar experience of like you know u the the hospital that I had. So it was a great experience. so we were here till 2014. >> [clears throat] >> Everything was going good. but my son he had medical issues and the challenge here was definitely like you know getting that 911 kind of service right like that emergency service didn't exist. and that started worrying us off like you know because he did need emergency services at times and my husband at that time used to travel a lot for work. So like you know he was probably in London at that time when one such case happened and I had to like you know

10:54 Drive him to the hospital and in the like you know it was 10:00 p.m. in the night or something and I was like no that's it. I think this is time that we like you know till he grows because the doctors had said that he will grow out of u the situation like you know some kids have >> issues when they are younger. so till he grows out of it probably we need to like you know move back and give him all the the medical facilities because at some point you feel like you know you'll fail as a parent if you could do something for your kid that you didn't do right especially in medical conditions. So yeah that was the reason we moved back in 2014. >> Got it. No >> thanks for sharing that. And how old was he at by that time? he was 3 years old like two and a half three years old when we we moved back. So, >> so it was primarily for the medical facilities and some of these like 911 service that kind of. So, you

11:54 >> I think it wasn't even medical like you know because medical was pretty decent like with like you know some of the very named hospitals being available but the emergency services was always a challenge like you know you can't get a 2 minutes 911 call that that comes to like you know somebody would come home and take care of the emergency right away. So that was the the the primary reason. Yeah. >> Got it. And then you I'm assuming you

12:21 Moved back to US. >> yeah, we moved back to US. like we were both in corporates at that point of time. So at that time my husband took a transfer back because like you know he was traveling anyway all the time. so he was like okay it's easier for me to move back if you want to move back. I took a break because of my son's >> medical situation. And I said I to settle him down and make sure like you know both of my kids settle back in the US easily. and so but it only lasted a couple of months. I took a couple of months break. things were fine. I think the environment change did help my sons like you know because he had severe asthma. So >> it really I think it helped. Plus of course I still had 911 calls like I think probably once every year. but like you know you just feel more comfortable in those situations over there that like you know even if you're alone then like you know something some help will come your way very

13:21 Quickly. >> Got it. [clears throat] And then were you working at the same company for the seven years like while you were in India like I know the company? >> Yeah I worked for the same company while I was here. I took a break like you know for a couple of months and then I was like okay I'm bored like you know because I've always worked since my college and I didn't know how to live without it and in US like you know if everybody is busy and of course my husband has been always very supportive and like you know helping with the household and stuff so I was like I don't know what am I doing here like you know everything's going fine. so I joined the same company back they were happy to have me back. So I joined the US division of the same company back after a couple of months. that time we moved to Dallas because the reason was that like you know we lived in Bay Area and we were like that place is very expensive. it's very crowded and busy like you know with little kids again too much traffic living too much away from work. so

14:24 Now that we are moving back and we have that opportunity let's find a a city that is like you know where we can find bigger better homes and so on. so again no correlation to Dallas as such that was an experiment that like you know it's pretty funny that one of my neighbors living next to me in Pune like you know they were also wanting to move back and she told me you know we are thinking we'll go back to Dallas like you know her husband had a traveling job too and I'm like okay that sounds good let our husbands go and find an apartment for us next to each other and then we'll both move to Dallas. So that's just how I landed in in 2014. >> It also makes sense. I think it's a good hub for people who are traveling I think and it's a good place [clears throat] like I think you know from a weather and for different aspects I think you know the cost.

15:13 >> Yeah. I mean that was okay but that's what my husband said that like when he heard Dallas he was like and like my neighbor's husband move wanted to move to Dallas for that reason because he used to travel internationally a lot and that's what my husband did as well and he's like okay that's fine with me because like from Dallas I can find international flights directly so that was the primary reason for yeah you're right about the traveling aspect for the the people in the traveling kind of jobs >> yeah weather was okay I mean it's pretty hot. It It gets decently cold. I think cold was fine like you know that much cold is fun but it gets pretty hot in summer but then also like you know you have bigger homes and better homes like you know newer built homes where it's pretty well and then there's a lot of DC community in Dallas like so >> for sure.

16:07 >> Yeah. I think you know now you can imagine the amount number of people is much more than like what you had in 2014 in that. >> Oh yeah yeah yeah. So like you know when we we basically built our house we we we had promised ourselves we are not buying any house we are coming back in a few years but then few months of living in an apartment and actually we had never lived in an apartment before both of us from our childhoods. so that temporary apartment living was a little bit was like you know what happened was we got a first floor apartment and then my kids would run they're used to running like you know and then I would get a complaint from the the ground floor and the kids grew up in India so we have concrete floors and they can do whatever nobody hears anything so it started getting a challenge so we decided to buy a house and we built our house there and it was like a 99.9% di

17:09 So in fact when I visited that community I was like man this is the place because I could see like you know kids playing in the playgrounds women sitting and chatting and like you know senior citizens walking around felt very much at home yeah that's how we moved to a house very quickly like you after a couple of months >> got >> and built it. So yeah, spent almost a decade there. That was the hardest part like you know because I made such good friends like they're like in so close to them even now because what happens in US is that when you're away from your families then your friends and neighbors become your true family like you know you're they're there for all of your ups and downs like we went through co together. Dallas had like you know severe power outage after co like it was for a couple of days we were there for each other supporting each other and

18:11 Like so there's so many memories that like yeah this time it was really really hard like because we have a lot of friends there now

18:21 >> so what happened I mean I think you moved for your son I think you know 10 years is a good amount of time like a lot of time even though you didn't plan for it like what evolved what changed you know to Yeah. >> Yeah. So we always had the plan to come back. I was worried about the kids growing up there. So we used to come to India at least once every year and kids loved it here. So we actually wanted to move back in 2020. I had come back and like 2019 I came back to India talked to again my like you know previous network of co-workers and the leaders that I had worked with. and I got pretty settled like in the sense that okay I can move back and I'll find a good opportunity because by that time you have grown in your career so you need to get serious about the roles that you take and so on. we had our house in Pune so that and then because we had moved with a container we had all of our stuff here already and the house was established. so

19:23 [clears throat] this time was going to be easier so we decided to move in 2020. we had our tickets booked and we were going to like you know okay let's start selling and this was before my daughter was going into high school because my worry was that I don't want her to go to into high school middle of the high school is not somewhere when you can move the kids so it wasn't going to be 10 years it was going to be like you know 6 years and then co happened like you know out of nowhere we hadn't sold our house luckily because like spring is the time when you would want to sell your house in Dallas. and then like you know we had to just cancel all of our plans and things completely changed. So in that 2 3 years then my daughter was in the middle of a high school. There was no way to >> change. Plus also perspectives changed because we got a little worried about like you know is are we like you know are the kids going to be safe in in there like you know US had pretty good

20:24 Infrastructure in terms of vaccines and like you know stuff like that to handle with the covid situations where a lot of the rest of the world was struggling in certain ways. so but yeah mostly it was because my daughter was already in the middle of high school. We like okay we're done. so my daughter was going to graduate in 2024 from high school. So we made that plan then okay now things are back to normal. Let's have like you know her finish her high school and get admissions to college and that's when we will make our like you know final move. Now I think this is final now. I don't think I can experiment anymore with new age and everything. I'm like okay I've done too much of moving so I should settle back. So we may move back to Pune like you know around that time frame for that reason.

21:19 >> Got it. And everything now good with your son. So like with the move you know the reason you went earlier was for you know the emergency for those situations. So now everything is in control and everything is in good. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So actually by the time he was seven or eight it was perfectly fine like nothing happened. and we just joke to him about like you know how he has scared us so many times in the past. but yeah knock on the wood everything's fine and he is the person who loves India the most. >> So like you know over all of this time he was born in India but he was a US citizen because like we all were US citizens. So it's he's a naturalized US citizen basically. and in the school he would always tell kids that he's Indian and like I'm like you're not you're a US citizen. And then it's like no I'm an Indian. I'm born in India. I don't know why you guys did this to me but he just absolutely and like you know he hated if everybody anybody said

22:19 Anything like you know bad about India. He was he is a very people person. So he loved spending time with like you know grandparents, cousins and every time he would come back to India he would be like you know why do I have to go back why can't I spend time with the grandparents as much as my rest of the cousins can because I just get a few weeks at a time and I think especially because he spent his very early childhood days with the the grandparents that he's somehow got very attached to like you know that part and we kept coming back to India that kept the connection going. Co actually made stronger connections because that time zooms became the only way to connect with people and I think everybody started connecting with their families a lot more because like you know the other outside social engagements kind of paused.

23:15 >> Yeah. so it was a stronger connection at that time and so yeah he was another big motivation because we were like okay I think I'm confident he would love to be in India. and before he gets into high school we should move back now otherwise like you know we have to wait till he goes to college as well. >> Yeah. So is your daughter in college in

23:39 >> Yeah my daughter is in college in US. and she's she's been a very like you know motivated independent child. So we weren't worried about him living on her own. I travel for work for my work. So I get to see her like you know at least a couple of times in a year I just go I mean it's just been 6 months but I was able to visit her twice like in those four months and then she came here on in winters and she's doing fine like you know she's able to travel on her own and she's fairly independent so yeah going so far. >> Cool. And what about your son like what curriculum did you choose like after moving to India? So in very interesting question actually before the first time we were in India both of my kids I had put them in IB not because we had any plans of going back but because I started her in CBSC and it was a very

24:41 At that point of time I'm not comparing to now right like 2008 these schools were very scriptive like you know they they were like okay write a in a one page for every single day and she would come home tired like you know I don't want to write a on a page every single day then my hands are tired so we realized that like you know it's a very traditional way of learning so we had put her in IB at that point she thrived and it was a super easy move back to the US because she was actually way advanced than the the students in the state board in the US and she adjusted pretty well when we came back we decided to use the same school, right? It was the easiest thing. in fact, my son used to go to a school in the same school before and it's very close to home. So, we chose the IB school. At this age, it became a struggle. because of various reasons like you know IB is a very different

25:42 Curriculum that gives schools a lot of flexibility on how to define and use that curriculum. there are no textbooks, there's no guidance and it's a very project based. this particular school took it in a very different way like you know for example for art they would tell my son to write a page on the history of art instead of creating an art for PE which is supposed to be a physical activity they told him to create a plan for his like you know exercise in a in a writing and he hates writing I mean in general and in US like you have a lot of flexibility to like you know what you want to do and how you want to do things and >> it just didn't work for him and it was too confusing. >> and I think it's just the school. I don't think it has with the curriculum itself. The curriculum still was still great. So, he wasn't thriving in that environment. He hated it actually. He didn't hate the people. He just loves

26:42 People anyway and he made some good friends, but he wasn't thriving. So, we moved to IGCSC. >> and and he loves it. because it has like you know it is closer to ICC but it is still extremely practical and how rather than what so it is still very like you know project based learning based learn the concepts really well but it is still structured to some extent you know so we were at least able to help him out and and look at his textbooks and like you know talk to him because there was just no textbooks. I'm like, I don't even know how to help him out because >> I don't know why he's struggling, right? So, he's in ninth grade. he is in IGCSC since the last year and he's doing pretty well like you know he has kids from who have moved from other places from the US and other

27:42 Countries like you know no situation of any bully bullying or anything like that. He gels right in. it is also a smaller school. We realize that like you know in the smaller school environment the principal and the teachers know the kids more personally and that personal touch helps them because in the US also they're used to smaller schools right like you know because they make like community based schools that are smaller and some of the Indian schools are like too big like kids get lost between like six sections of students. So he's thriving like you know everybody's different but he's thriving in in the current environment. >> Got it. And so I know you work for a

28:30 US company here in India right? So you never worked for an Indian organization like so like from a trying to get like a you know like a work culture or anything. So just like you never >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Good question. So I worked for TCS before moving to US. That was my campus job right. So but a very small stint I would say. so I have always worked for US companies. [clears throat] so it could be and then I have also only worked for product companies. I have never worked in services. So because I started my career with the startup. I have always been product companies. I worked for large companies and then moved to a startup. and then now I've moved to like a midsize company. But then when I decided to move back, the company that I was working for did not have a setup in India. it was a startup. So we they didn't have like you know engineering teams in India. they were very open to me working from India remotely. But like you know I'm

29:31 At that point in the career that my kids are kind of grown up. They don't need me as much. I really wanted to have an interaction like you know a real life not working all night and like you know sleeping during the day having no social interaction right so I decided to look out for jobs so I actually based on just networks because otherwise you nobody takes interest in you they don't take you seriously applying doesn't get you anywhere so I started just looking at my network of people reaching them out and also like you know when I saw the LinkedIn post of somebody wanting to hire then I would just message them. I was very anxious because I have never done that in the past like you know randomly messaging people and I was like did they would they feel bad if I did that and things like that but they were pretty supportive like you know very senior leaders that I have never known before they were pretty supportive they would respond back because it wasn't a

30:32 Marketing message right it was genuinely my telling them that like you know I'm wanting to move back to India I'm looking for a leadership role do you think I'm a fit for this position Right. so they were very supportive. I got like, you know, even if I wasn't the right fit. Some of them actually gave me suggestions on how to find jobs, how to update my resume in such a way that it reflects that I'm planning to move back to India. even suggested me or connected me with the other people. So it was a great like you know collaborative environment from from the people that I had known from n network plus even the people who I have never met or have no connections with they're not even my third LinkedIn connection right but people were very nice so I felt that okay but yeah that was the only way to find jobs I interviewed with few companies with Indian companies as well as like you know the US-based companies is I think it's just the culture that you get used

31:33 To and I was so used to like you know a culture and I always feel like that like you know when you are joining any company I think the culture is the biggest factor right like you know because if you're having fun working with the people that you're working then everything else becomes easier so I took that as the biggest criteria I chose where I felt that like you know okay I'm a culture fit like you know I'm going to have fun working the with with the people and yeah so and it's it's been good >> so you are part of an Indian organization now yes and then you know >> subsidy of a US-based company >> got it understood and I know you mentioned about some collaborative tips

32:16 I mean is there anything that you would suggest because there are families who are thinking about moving to India and you know someone who has been working for 15 20 years like I think you already mentioned about LinkedIn but you also mentioned like something as an input on what needs to be updated on the resume, right? For people thinking about anything that you want to share from a tactical side on that. >> Yeah, absolutely. So, some of the suggestions that I got from like you know the people was that have a summary on the top when you're putting your location that you're planning to move back to this city so that like you know it's clearer. also basically like you know list out any experiences that you have had in India before and highlight them so because like you know companies do love the blend and that you have had the US background as well as the India background. I like you know I had moved to India for 6 years 7 years before going back. So that was definitely a

33:17 Helpful part of it. and then more than that honestly it was just reaching out to people. random people it's fine like you know there are a lot of people who would respond some wouldn't but mostly people have been very supportive on LinkedIn for me this was my only first try because like you know I never look honestly I have never applied or looked for a job in all of my career before >> because like you know I worked for the same company when I went to the startup it was more like you know them reaching out to me is like hey do you want to join us you seem like a fit based on your domain and stuff like that and it just happened. I have I never did like a job shopping so I wasn't experienced myself. So this was my try but I think it worked out pretty well. I think the network is the biggest thing especially in these days with AI everybody's resume looks perfect. That's the problem. So you can't perfect your resume in any way.

34:17 Like you know and that's a challenge with the employers too or like you know us as an employer that everybody's resume looks perfect right so how would you distinguish like so that's why when we hire here as well we look for references as the highest priority because somebody has worked with this person or knows this person and can vouch for it is the best way because like you know wrong hires are take you the the biggest hit so yeah I think like you know start building your network and reach out to people that you think you might be interested in working with them or like you know in their companies even if you don't know them it's fine. so what has been your experience like

34:58 Moving in 2008 right I think you know now it's in 2024 it's been about any like is there a difference in terms of living in India at that time versus now anything that you can share from your traffic has become worse [laughter] but it didn't used to be that big so traffic has become worst and I think all of that Uber Ola and the blankets services have made the the commutes crazy. I think one thing that my son like you know misses is the the US roads like when we travel back then he says that like you know I want to go back there. so but other than that the the services have improved quite a bit like you know now again taking back of that Uber Ola and blanket examples right the these services have really made our lives so much easier I'm not used to buying groceries or planning for groceries because like you know you need

36:00 Something you get it in 5 minutes anyway right so they they I think you can't beat those services it's just unbelievably convenient in those ways. and I think overall in India the digital digitalization has happened quite quickly like in terms of banking, mobile as well as like you know our daily lives that other countries are still catching up with. so that convenience is really like you know helping us out. I mean if you needed anything like now nobody even takes a gas connection. It's all pipe but like you know if you needed an internet you call in the morning and the guy will come in the afternoon and just install it for you. the services are really good like you know the internet is pretty powerful. So all of those things like you know I think the infrastructure and services have become so convenient and when you get addicted to it it's hard to get out of there. So I'll tell you an experience actually. And the

37:00 Other thing is that we're not used to doing stuff on our own anymore, right? Like so you go to a hotel, you drop your luggage outside the hotel and you don't have to worry about it. The food there is awesome. So by the way, actually another interesting part that I would I want to share about my move that may help others is that I wanted to he's going into an eighth grade if I move him in the ninth grade then and he doesn't like it then we are stuck there right even though he says he likes it so while my daughter was in 12th grade and my daughter my son was in eighth grade we took a tough call we said like you know my husband and my son will move to India >> one year before us so they moved here in 2024 and I I had a very I loved my job at that point of time so I was like okay if I'm going to do something about it then like you know we need to take a

38:01 Careful decision. So they moved an year back before us and I said you try out you tell me 6 months later if you like it or not and if you do that is when we we'll make a decision to have a final move because I'll be selling my house. I'll have to switch jobs. and it's a big decision. I don't want to do that like you know one year later we are all scrambling back into doing it. 6 months later he said he's he's loving it and he he's good and I said okay that's when we'll do especially because my son was at an older age right like and with the younger kids I think it doesn't even matter to them where you are I mean some parents worry about it but I always tell them don't worry they wouldn't even know that you have moved countries right and they get adjusted pretty quickly also I tell them is that like it's the mindset of the kid that makes a difference it's not the environment at All I have seen kids who came with the mindset that they hated India. They

39:04 Actually hated the same school and the same environment that my son is in and they moved back within an year. >> My son came with a very positive attitude. It's like you know I am excited. We didn't force him or anything. I'm excited. I'm going back to India. I'm going to make it happen. So he found excitement in like you know his bus breaking one day and somebody pushing the bus from the back and he's like oh my god mom this is so exciting. I've never seen that in India and he likes to chat a lot. So one day he was chatting and he missed his bus. and like you know the the one of the teachers he came and he's like you missed your bus like why don't I put you in my bike and we will go and we'll catch the bus. So he calls the driver, he puts him in, as I was telling, it's a small school and like you know teachers really pay attention. So he puts him in the back of his bike, calls the driver saying, "Hey, I'm coming. One kid still needs to go and he goes like the driver was still not out of the like you know small street that the school is in." So

40:06 He takes the bike in front of the bus and stands there. And my son was super thrilled. He was like, "Nobody has ever put me in a bike. why don't you guys buy a bike? And then he's like that's a movie like experience like you know that I'm like you know somebody puts his bike in front of the bus and drops me. I think it's just the mindset of the I think like you know if you are wanting to move then with the kids know your kids really well >> and their mindset and see if you can bring in positivity if because if the parents are frustrated and talking about things that oh my god traffic is bad this is miserable kids pick it up right and but if I think it's a positive the kids generally if they have a positive mindset then they will find positivity and they settle in fine. So, sorry I distracted.

40:57 >> No, absolutely true. >> conversation. But because a lot of parents like you know they say can I have my kid talk to your kid? I don't know what's magical about it >> and I'm like no it's just he's very positive. It's not that he doesn't have bad experiences. He's just very positive about them. >> Got it. is there anything that we

41:17 Haven't covered or any advice that you would give for families who are thinking about moving to India? Yeah, I mean one other thing that people continue to talk about is whether to ship your stuff. so from my perspective, I shipped all of my stuff the first time. in the 10 years of the next move, I had again collected stuff that I loved and I moved back with it. I personally don't regret it like you know the container shipment has been very smooth. I did a full container both the times. So basically it was like you know safe and secure and I didn't have any bad experience just electronics you want to be careful about because now customs is very like you know critical about the electronics and stuff but I feel that here like you know it was easier in multiple ways. One is that our house was pretty set up. it was set up with the things that my mostly for my son that he was used to.

42:14 His room room looks exactly the same with the same bed and the desk that makes him feel home. so it was a lot of that emotional aspect of like you know us feeling back home the the same way that we were right. plus also it is quite expensive in India now like it is not cheap to buy stuff in India. Of course, you get good quality wood furniture. I have bought some like you know nice wooden furniture after moving like you know some of the accessories and stuff that I was missing. but I [clears throat] mean I think it's a personal decision but also for me it turned out pretty well to just move with everything. the projectors the speakers they you don't get the same quality when you get there like double the cost here. Crazy. like you know my projector the the media room projector broke down like you know it had some lens problems after I moved in and I started looking for it. You get like those office projectors called

43:14 As media projectors here because the actual media pro projectors are extremely expensive. So if you own stuff like that then like you know because you will have to just throw them away. then plan it bring some of the things do your research on like you know what's the price in India for the things that you're wanting to bring or not bring >> and then can decide whether it's worth it. >> No completely agree. So yeah, thank you very much Miss Nidi for taking the time sharing your journey. really exciting you know spending time at both places and you know the positiveness of your son like you know how we enjoyed those things. so thanks a lot for sharing your story and giving your insights to us. >> Thank you for giving me the opportunity and share my story as well. you're doing an amazing job and like you know lot of help and support to the families that are wanting to meet like you know move back. so thank you for all that you do as well.

44:14 >> No thank you. Yeah.